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Duchesse Cherry

Started by Viv, January 08, 2024, 12:08:43 PM

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Viv

DUCHESSE CHERRY  t_u  t_u  t_u  t_u  t_u

Flemish Red with added cherries, from Verhaeghe with an ABV of 6.8%. New brew for
me.

Pours a deep ruby burgundy, with a large frothy bubbly head. Some lacing.

Aroma of cherries, almonds, malts and berry fruit.

Thin bodied, and with a high level of carbonation, it's vastly complex, layered,
balanced and has good depth of flavour. Like the ( outstanding ) base beer it's
sharp, tart, acidic, puckering, sour, bitter-sweet, with lots of fruit- cherries,
raspberries, strawberries, sherbet, grains, caramel, vinegar, citrics, apples,
grapes, butter, vanilla and ice cream. Plus lots of woody oak. Silky smooth,
easy drinking, refreshing, and a lot more mellow when warmed.
Essentially a sweeter and more cherry-fruited version of the base beer. Still
a wonderful and high quality brew! However, the cost equates to double the base
beer so I don't think it's justified really. Value does come into it, so adding
ingredients, or doing anything else, must produce a better brew than the base
otherwise it simply isn't justified for me. Ok for a one-off tasting but I'll
stick to the base beer in future thank you! 

Cheers!


Viv


John B

Wow Viv, double the cost of the base beer!? I can see why you'll stick to the base beer in the future. I would too.

Cheers! - John

Trappist

Quote from: Viv on January 08, 2024, 12:08:43 PMHowever, the cost equates to double the base
beer so I don't think it's justified really. Value does come into it, so adding
ingredients, or doing anything else, must produce a better brew than the base
otherwise it simply isn't justified for me. Ok for a one-off tasting but I'll
stick to the base beer in future thank you! 
Hi Viv,
You are right ofcourse!
But there still are small details.
Duchesse de Bourgogne is bottled into small 25cl bottles. The Cherry version into bigger 33cl. volumes.

Example from https://be.drankgigant.nl/catalogsearch/result/?q=duchesse


When counting, this would make a 33cl basis beer at €2.49 for a 33cl volume.
In that case, not really double the price  :chin:

Making the cherry isn't really a cheap thing too:
From https://www.brouwerijverhaeghe.be/duchesse-cherry
"Only brewed with real Belgian cherries (no flavor enhancers or cherry extracts). The fruit comes from the Sint-Truiden region in Limburg (Belgium).
When the base beer is ready, the brewer adds 20 Kg of "Kriek Gorsem" (Belgian sour cherries) per 100 liters to the beer. For 6 months, the beer macerates with the cherries. The cherries give a fresh and fruity taste to the beer with a sweet and sour base. After 24 months of processing, the beer is ready."

Maybe, it is not really all that bad after all IMHO.

BUT...... when you say the basis beer doesn't improve with that cherry treatment, you are ofcourse 100% right to focus on the basis beer only, which is already a TOP-NOTCH quality product  t_u .

Cheers,
Filip



"Beer, if drank with moderation, softens the temper, cheers the spirit, and promotes health."
–- Thomas Jefferson

Viv

Hi Filip,

I keep a record of the cost of every brew tasted ( amongst many other things! )
and arrive at a "price by volume", and so for me the cost equates to exactly
double in the case of these two brews, hence my comment in the earlier posting.
Prices obviously vary tremendously depending where and when they are bought.

Both excellent brews, but for me why pay double for something that is probably
slightly lower quality..... so in futue I will simply stick to the fantastic


DUCHESSE DE BOURGOGNE  !!!



Cheers!


Viv




Trappist

Quote from: Viv on January 09, 2024, 06:48:44 PMPrices obviously vary tremendously depending where and when they are bought.
Indeed Viv,
When I notice that a Duchesse de Bourgogne would cost a €2.49 for a 33cl volume (which doesn't exist in that volume) here in Belgium, makes it quite an expensive beer.
After all, it is a normal "oud bruin" with a 6.2 vol%. Not that strong.
Rochefort 10 goes at €2.35 for a 33cl bottle over here, which is cheaper  :eyes:
Note that we also have the ability to buy a 75cl bottle.
https://www.prikentik.be/duchesse-de-bourgogne-fles-75cl
€5.67 per bottle...... gives exactly the same price at €2.49 for 33cl.
I think I would go for the 75cl. corked beauties  t_u
Cheers,
Filip




"Beer, if drank with moderation, softens the temper, cheers the spirit, and promotes health."
–- Thomas Jefferson